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Old_school (Old_school)
Senior Member Username: Old_school
Post Number: 465 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 08:13 am: |
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I am not an expert at that, but why go thru the added expense of the stainless when you have the old Terne on the rest of it? If you were going to change everything, that would make sense to me, but since you are just going to patch an area it would seem like an added hassle and expense that is not going to benifit anyone! |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 6 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 10:25 pm: |
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So, I take it that riveting the patch would be alright? Secondly, can you sweat terne coated Stainless to regular terne steel? Is it okay to do this? |
   
Old_school (Old_school)
Senior Member Username: Old_school
Post Number: 464 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:32 pm: |
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Cleanliness is next to Godliness when working with old metals. You are going to have to take a angle grinder and wire wheel and buff it clean where ever you want to solder it. Hopefully it isn't so rusted or thin that you cut through it. I would use a brass wire wheel,a nd make sure and wear safety glasses. Crap tends to fly! |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 5 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:07 pm: |
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Slate I am thinking of doing some more work on that house too. Good idea, though. Can you just pop rivet the terne steel to the existing metal gutter and sweat it? Thanks |
   
Slate_man (Slate_man)
Senior Member Username: Slate_man
Post Number: 603 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 05:42 am: |
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If its only three feet why buy a brake, go to a local sheet metal shop tell them what you need and they will make it, for a lot less. |
   
Joe (Joe)
Moderator Username: Joe
Post Number: 542 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 10:37 pm: |
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Oh - sorry - I thought you were replacing the entire gutter system. I'm on the road right now and only have time to scan the message boards. If it's only 3', then just use terne metal. |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 4 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 07:13 pm: |
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Joe The gutter that I am patching in was already done in terne coated steel about 20 years ago. I just have to build out and bend metal for a three foot section that had a chimney running up through it that I tore out. Can u sweat stainless to the regular terne coated steel? |
   
Joe (Joe)
Moderator Username: Joe
Post Number: 539 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 01:40 pm: |
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Use 20 ounce copper or terne coated stainless steel. You can get a fairly inexpensive 4' brake at slateroofwarehouse.com (http://josephjenkins.com/store/hand-brake-tennsmith-s48-22.html). You can also get 20 ounce copper there as well as all the soldering stuff. You will have to install it in 4' sections unless you use a longer brake. |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 08:37 pm: |
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Blue Sky All of the rest of the gutter is good. I just have to reconnect where an old chimney went through box gutter. I do not want to put rubber on it. |
   
Blue_sky_roofing (Blue_sky_roofing)
Junior Member Username: Blue_sky_roofing
Post Number: 13 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 04:09 pm: |
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Have you considered lining the box gutter with rubber membrane. I do this from time to time with great success and best of all - maintenance free! |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 02:57 pm: |
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No, it is an old style wooden box gutter that is lined with terne coated steel. I have to bend the metal on the job. Trying to find out what gage metal to use. Thanks anyways |
   
Old_school (Old_school)
Senior Member Username: Old_school
Post Number: 463 Registered: 01-2009
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 02:43 pm: |
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Is this an internal gutter, or a hung box gutter? How big do you want it? My Brother at Classic Gutters in Kalamazoo has a machine that will make a 7" box gutter. I know he has made it out of copper (20 oz.) and Aluminum and also steel. If it is a gutter that you want to hang from a fascia, you should give them a call. They can ship up to 26 foot pieces and that is normally long enough for most appplications. They also have all of the necessary accessories too. Sorry for the lack of interest! |
   
Drsmith33 (Drsmith33)
New member Username: Drsmith33
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2010
| Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 01:23 pm: |
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I have been trying to get someone out to my house in Cincinnati to bid on my box gutter job for a month, with no callbacks. Crazy!! So, I am going to attempt it myself. What gage of terne coated steel do I use? Where can I buy a not so expensive brake? Thanks in advance!! Don |