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     Ward Hamilton Member Username: Olde_mohawk_masonry__historic_restoration Post Number: 27 Registered: 04-2007 |
Thank you for everyone's help and insight. Truthfully, what I'm trying to do is show the potential customer that a Yankee gutter CAN have a slip tube/downspouts (structural) and it will also look good (aesthetically pleasing.) We have done built-ins on numerous jobs, just never a 'true' Yankee gutter system. The drawing really isn't to spec or scale, just something I "ripped off" from Joe, printed, drew on, and scanned in. Yes, I agree to bigger slips/leaders. We've never done less than 4" on any (most of our customers aren't real good about getting up and clearing out obstructions.) | |||
| Kurtis Hord Advanced Member Username: Kwhord Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2006 |
Ward, I see another potential problem with the spec. you posted. The copper should probably extend a little bit further under the slate. Maybe I just cant see it very well, but I'd take it up to just below the nails of the starter course. | |||
| Joe Jenkins Senior Member Username: Joe Post Number: 259 Registered: 07-2006 |
We also prefer a vertical drop tube. We fabricate a drop tube that protrudes down through the soffit, then solder it in place inside the gutter. The bottom of the drop is then sticking out underneath the soffit and we rivet our spouting onto it. The last one we did we used 5" round copper downspouts, which are big for a residence, but when you have built-in gutters, you run the risk of collecting debris in the gutter and clogging the drop outlet. So a bigger outlet may be beneficial in some cases. | |||
| Walter Musson Senior Member Username: Walter_musson Post Number: 77 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ward, Lousy day for picture taking today, but heres one of the spouting coming thru the soffits.  | |||
| Walter Musson Senior Member Username: Walter_musson Post Number: 76 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ward, Also thinking the drop tubes in the soffit should be straight not bent like shown. Less chance of blockage and bursting from debris and ice blockage. | |||
| Walter Musson Senior Member Username: Walter_musson Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2006 |
Ward, I'm looking at a home today with downspout tubes that come thru the soffit. I'll take a couple pictures of them. Here we have external wooden gutters instead of your Yankee gutters, but the drops would be similar. How much roof is being drained by each spout/ It shows 4" copper as downspouts there. | |||
| Ward Hamilton Member Username: Olde_mohawk_masonry__historic_restoration Post Number: 25 Registered: 04-2007 |
thanks... do you have any pix that 'show' the downspouts coming out the bottom of the soffit, etc. the customer is also (and more so) curious as to how it looks, and i don't have any good pix. | |||
| Joe Jenkins Senior Member Username: Joe Post Number: 256 Registered: 07-2006 |
There is a mistake in that pdf drawing - it's not showing the starter slate. Also, the main piece of copper that goes up under the slate should have a cant bent into it. | |||
| Ward Hamilton Member Username: Olde_mohawk_masonry__historic_restoration Post Number: 24 Registered: 04-2007 |
This is what I am talking about:
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| Ward Hamilton Member Username: Olde_mohawk_masonry__historic_restoration Post Number: 23 Registered: 04-2007 |
I am working with a customer to install true Yankee gutters on a 12/12 Vermont 'Sea Green' roof. I have shown him pix of the gutters, and a schematic Joe had on here of how the gutters are done. But I need pix and/or schematic that shows the ends, closed, with slip tube down through the soffitt to downspouts. Any help from you guys is greatly appreciated. |
