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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Liam
out of The East tomorrow, maybe next time
best rgds
Stuart
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Slate_man (Slate_man)
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well thats to bad you should be in VT not NY! Maybe I will run in to you as I travel today!
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

actually Joe, I was pulling your leg
I am up in upstate NY, so far,I have not seen so many roofs than scream at me
But this sure is a lovely place in early summer eh?
best rgds
Stuart
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Slate_man (Slate_man)
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Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joe you should have some beef cows and pigs with all that land!
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Old_school (Old_school)
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eating dogs and cats now are we? Kind of far eastern religious stuff! Snakes too? This post has really deteriorated! Tell me, how did we get there fro a picture of a slate bracket?
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Joe (Joe)
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know where you guys came up with cows. I had a goat 35 years ago. Just some chickens, ducks, a dog and some cats now.
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Old_school (Old_school)
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey, I don't drink any more either...I don't drink any less though.

Gosh Joe, 140 acres, cows, a garden, organic toilets, a bomb shelter....sounds like a "compound" to me. Just yanking your chain. When I was growing up we had three cows and all of that for our food. It was good and non toxic, but all of that is a LOT!! of work. 7 days a week too. Not much into squeezing teats anymore.
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Joe really, do you have some cows for me to milk, or something for me to weld:)
best rgds
Stuart
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2012 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chris I arrive NY 8TH, ON 9TH HAVE A MEETING AND ON 10TH AM FREE
Sorry I do not drink
Apart from beer--German and wine
And Scotch and so on, sorry to disappoint
best rgds
Stuart
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ale am up for that
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Chris (Chris)
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lets all get some dinner and ale
on the 7th in ny?
ss crew, joe, lazy and scotty and anyone else that wants to join
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Joe (Joe)
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Posted on Friday, June 01, 2012 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Driving from NYC to LA you go right past my house if you're on I-80. My property fronts on 80 (143 acres).

http://josephjenkins.com/about_us.html#map
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you going on your travels stuart
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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thanks Steve John, yes OK , Just, for first attempt
I leave for NY 7th, I'll be seeing slate with new eyes, drive to LA and fly in FF Germany,
best rgds
Stuart
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

welsh slate are usually mint m8 they look like penrhyn
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Old_school (Old_school)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looks good Stuart!
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

in the rain with lead cap
second later this roo came at me
, strange it is a she, I had no choice I ran hard at her and she took off, scared the hell outta both of us


best rgds
Stuart
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stevie
You mentioned, "hold out water"
Well the Welsh I put on, is thin, but after a shower it drys in no time, so does this mean it is good stuff and not soaking up water? guess so
I am delighted with the wee hoose, very easy on the eye and am at mo building the steel framed windows
best rgds
Stuart
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The smaller roof is ballachulish slate there 200 odd years old before we've used them they have been re-dressed graded and re-sized on site
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Those slate you see are aberfoyle slate there are traditional scotch slate those slates are easily 200 years old still keeping out water and just head and cheek nailed that's us preparing to take the roof off
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We can nail a roof up using head and cheek nails where its as good as double nailed but we can do maintenance work ten time easier and we don't have to bib anything
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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depends on the tradesman Stuart 500 to 600 if your good and lower if your just time served and price work is different again you can make much more on price
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We use a head nail but we also do whats called cheek nailing it acts as if you have double nailed the roof but u haven't thus giving you ease of repair in Scotland where we sarking out the roofs head nailing with cheek nailing is the traditional way in England where they don't sarking out there roofs they double nail
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Slate_man (Slate_man)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How many nails do you put in your slates? It looks like one in the middle. Here in the US its two and down lower then what I see here in these photos! Got some more detail pictures of installing slate?
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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I can see you are proud of what you do.
But are you rewarded for this? May I ask, how many GBP. does a tradesman earn there?
best rgds
Stuart
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Lazeyjack (Lazeyjack)
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Stevie
Great pics Mon
best rgds
Stuart
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

vertical they cant be used on a very steep pitch they have a longer back you have like a set for normal pitches and a set for like churches etc we also have ones that do double boards we usually use them at the bottom for taking all our slate
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Old_school (Old_school)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I see now, you use the tar paper as a temporary patch while they are being used. We normally used a slate jack that has a base about 6 inches wide to spread out the weight and a flexible hook to drive the nails into to hold it on the roof. It adjusts to the pitch of the roof too. Is there any way to make this adjust to a steeper pitch?
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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thats my feet u see lol
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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yes
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Slate_man (Slate_man)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can post a picture of them on a roof being used?
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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Posted on Monday, May 28, 2012 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

still using same equipment they was using years ago i have a full set of my fathers roof jacks and he used them for 30 years
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Scottishslater (Scottishslater)
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picture of roof jacks we use here traditional style.Simply hammered into the roof joist

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