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Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 6 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 08:30 pm: |
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the panel are cleated, just locked and soldered no rivets, i was away , i will take pictures and try and post them tomorrow |
   
John_chan (John_chan)
Senior Member Username: John_chan
Post Number: 63 Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 11:51 am: |
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You shouldn't need expansion joints on runs of 30' or less as long as the gutter is cleated in to allow for movement. Is the gutter cleated or nailed? Is it riveted and soldered, or locked and soldered? If it's locked and soldered, did you pre-tin the joints? |
   
Slate_man (Slate_man)
Senior Member Username: Slate_man
Post Number: 616 Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 07:28 am: |
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How long are the pcs of copper, are they nailed in or do did you clip they in for exspanion. |
   
Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2010 - 08:18 pm: |
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the solder joints in the v |
   
Slate_man (Slate_man)
Senior Member Username: Slate_man
Post Number: 615 Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 05:26 am: |
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Is it the seam solder seams that are cracked or is it the bend line in the V, that is cracked? |
   
Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 4 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 03:44 pm: |
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correction...the thirty ft run has 2 spouts |
   
Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 3 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 02:48 pm: |
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there is only one spout per run....the main house is 30 ft...and the smaller addition is 25...is that to much? |
   
John_chan (John_chan)
Senior Member Username: John_chan
Post Number: 62 Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 11:43 am: |
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If your gutter is cleated in, you can retrofit the expansion joints, as long as there's downspouts in the right places. Expansion joints are a must on copper gutters and larger copper roofs. |
   
Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 2 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 09:21 am: |
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i thought we did everything right...no joints though...but in only cracked in the "v" of the gutter....not going up the roof, under the slate, or where it was attached to the drip edge.....ill take some pictures today |
   
Jimmyjim (Jimmyjim)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimmyjim
Post Number: 35 Registered: 08-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 06:30 am: |
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Wow, I'd be really curious to know why it's cracked at only 5 yrs old and since I'm about to put on the same. Was it cleated? Expansion joints? Was anyone walking on it? Resting flat against the boards? I was wondering if snow and ice sliding down the roof could do this kind of damage--at least with mine it would hit it. I believe with the copper being that new you should be able to rivet new and solder, (someone with more experience should input about that) but better find out why it's happening in the first place. |
   
Cookie (Cookie)
New member Username: Cookie
Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 08, 2010 - 01:24 am: |
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im restoring an old house, i was originally working for the contractor, who is now long gone. We rebuilt all the gutters and lined them with lead coated copper, flat seamed an soldered....5 yrs later almost all seems in the v of the gutter are cracked....any ideas on how to repair? |