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Joe (Joe)
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Posted on Thursday, October 29, 2009 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have you looked at this thread:

http://jenkinsslate.com/messages/messages/3/4391.html?1256657331
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Jafi (Jafi)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Many of the slate nails pull out without tools. I don't think the retrofit ones will hold much weight. I think I need to pull the slate and nail them to the roof. It seems that snow guards with the brass bar will make the slate stick up if you don't cut the slate around them?
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Joe (Joe)
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The different snow guards are more a matter of style than anything. The ones that hook over the top of the slate are retrofit snowguards. You can add them to an existing roof without having to remove the slate. There is a video showing how to do it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbP_CqYovIU
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Joe (Joe)
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Were the nails you're concerned about the ones used to nail the slate or to nail the valley? What was the valley metal?
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Posted on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have a question about the various snow guards I have been looking at. Some have a brass bar to attach them, which seems to require that you notch the slate to make them fit. Others have a flat piece of copper which goes over top of the slate (no notching required). Can someone give me some advice on which style to use? Is it only a matter of appearance, or does one work better than the other? Due to the condition of nails on my roof, I will need to pull up the slate to install them anyway. I live in Virginia, so we donít get that much snow.
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dormer before valley was replaced.
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Joe (Joe)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How about a photo of the roof?
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Slate_man (Slate_man)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the nail heads are falling of then it may be time to renail the slate roof. Most of the time your nails will be rusty, its not till they fall apart that you have a major problem. A picture of the nail is always nice. On most older roofs in Vermont it is typiccal that the nails, are a little loose and you could pull a pcs of slate off with your hand. I would not use retrofit gaurds unless you nail them in with new nails, we use screws, brass for that. So you will need to remove the slate to install them. The gutter seem to be a little to low, there are different braket for different fascia details, I would look into that a little more.
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Jafi (Jafi)
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Just had valley replaced and the nails that were removed looked rusted. I guess they were regular nails or galvanization is gone. Most nails came up with little resistance they seem loose. Should I have the roof re-nailed now or wait until slates start to fall out? Also I want to replace the gutters and wanted to install snow guards. I donít think those old nails will hold the retrofit snow guards very well. Should we pull up slates to install the snow guards? Last question, if I try to install the gutters below where snow slides would catch them, they will hang 5 or six inches below the roof line (also below fascia). Can I just add additional brackets? The roof is about 12 feet to ridge and 11x12 pitch.

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