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     Senio cha New member Username: Senio Post Number: 1 Registered: 09-2008 |
Hi,my name is senio cha,I write to introduce our company as one of the best natural slate manufacturer and exporter from Jiangxi,china,of a wide range of natural Roofing Slate.If you need more detail,please go to Our Homepage www.china-beyard.com. We have export to Ireland,UK,USA for more than 3 years.Our Roofing Slate is popular oversea. Your inquires will be highly appreciated. Best regards Company: Beyard Slate Co., Ltd. Website: www.china-beyard.com Address: No.35 Nanhu road,Jiujiang city,Jiangxi province, China Tel: 0086-13479296006 Fax: 0086-792-8582132 Email/MSN: BeyardSlate@hotmail.com Contact:Mr. Senio | ||
| Paramount Slate Junior Member Username: Paramount_slate Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2007 |
we can offer the cheap slate, but we don't want to do so. You will learn the old saying"no free lunch". but our top quality slate is much cheaper than local slate. | ||
| Slateofchina Ltd. New member Username: Ncslate Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2007 |
Slateofchina Ltd. is a China quarry owner of slate,stone,quartzite,limestone in many colors for use in roofing,flooring,paving,wall clading, and billiard table, proper use for arts,home,real-estate,business, games,recreation,sports,casino,entertainment.Our slate conform to BS680(1971) and ASTM C406 S1 standards.We can supply you the slate of best quality and most competitive price.For the further information,please visit our website: http://www.slateofchina.com Add: Xiong Village,HengTang Town, XingZi County, JiuJiang City, JiangXi, China ¡¡P.C.332808 contact: Mr.Xiong Tel: +86 792 269 0031 Fax: +86 792 266 2909 Mobil: +86 135 7620 9150 Website: http://www.slateofchina.com Email: slatesale@163.com  | ||
| James Burbach |
I was looking for a slate quarry that sold good slate for cheap. I found one in China that sold the slate for $47.00 per square!!!!! That is cheap. Here is the good part about it is 1/2 inch thick. Do you know how they can sell this slate so cheap? And have you ever heard anything about Chinese slate??? | ||
| Joe Jenkins |
You get what you pay for. Some stone stands up to weather, some does not. Your *labor* cost will not be reduced by a cheap material, so it is foolish to put a poor quality slate on a roof only to have to remove it again in 20 years, or watch it fall apart. Chinese slates are like any other - there are good quality varieties and poor quality ones. Poor quality ones should not be used on a roof. The $47/square variety are probably of a poor quality, but who knows? That's one of the problems with some foreign slates - lack of quality control and uniform standards. Thicker slates are not necessarily better. In the US, thicker slates are made from the lower quality rock. The higher quality rock is split down into thinner slates. You can get more information on Chinese slates from the "links" page on this site (try Echeguren, for example, or contact Jeff Shao - roofslate@aol.com). | ||
| barbara |
Our 110 year old house had a slate roof which was replaced with concrete tiles. We now wish to replace these tiles and are having difficulty knowing what is a "good" slate and what is bad. Spanish black slates have been suggested as we can't afford the Welsh ones which were probably original to the house. We have 1 quote of Aust$38,000 and one of Aust$25,000 which has made us understandably wary. We have asked for a sample slate but that didn't help much. Any hints or suggestions? Also it does not seem to be the custom here to put a timber underlay on the roof, only battens. We don't have ice or snow, but we are having an insulation blanket for heat. Does that sound OK? | ||
| Jiim Germond |
Hi Barbara, I have seen very good Spanish slate... and I have seen very bad Spanish slate. As I understand it, there are something like 150 quarries operating in Spain and that there are significant differences in the quality of what they produce. I have heard that the Northern quarries are superior to the Southern quarries. I have seen Spanish that contains significant amounts of Pyrite (which rusts over time). Without knowing the the area of your roof, it is difficult to assess the price. How much $$$ per square, do those figures work out to be? If you are interested in Black slate, I would look to the Glendyne Quarry in Quebec, CANADA. If you want Purple, Green or Variegated, I would consider Newfoundland CANADA. I can give you contact info for those if you like. As for the battens, Joe can speak to that, but I am under the impression that battens are good installation practice. Best Regards, Jim Germond | ||
| Joe |
I went to Spain a couple years ago to find out whether their slate was any good or not, having heard lots of bad news about Spanish slate. I spent two weeks touring the quarries (there are about 50 I'm told) and it turns out they do have some pretty good slate there, and some bad, as Jim pointed out. There is an account on this web site at http://www.jenkinsslate.com/thinkingabout.html in which a "Mr. Jones" tells a woeful tale about his Spanish slates. You might want to read that. It seems that the Fran Visa quarry is a pretty good bet (in northern Spain). I went to their quarry, and their mill, and they seemed to be a very high quality operation. I've used some of their slate here in Pennsylvania on a house. Samaca seems to have a pretty good reputation as well. Battens work fine for installing slates, and there are many century old batten slate roofs. It's the style in the UK and much of Europe. However, in my humble opinion, solid wood is preferable for a number of reasons. The roofs are easier to repair and restore later when there is more wood underneath to nail to. The roofs are stronger too. Battens will work fine, however, so don't be worried if that's what you end up with. Since I do slate roof restoration for a living, I know it's easier to restore a roof that has a solid wood deck, so that's how I build them. Most people don't care what's going to happen with the roof several generations later. There are also some good black Chinese slates, or so I'm told, but that's a real gamble unless you personally ASTM test your slates before purchase. | ||
| Ken Rule |
HIGH QUALITY IMPORTED SLATE CAN BE LESS EXPENSIVE: After reading a message concerning Chinese slate, I wanted to make a few comments. I work for Black Diamond Slate Company and import slates from China, Spain and Brazil. These all come from one manufacturer who directly ownes the quarries in China, as well as, Brazil and Spain. The Chinese slate we are recieving from this company is the best unfading black, gray and green that I have ever seen. Before we joined efforts with this single source producer, we purchased material from several Chinese brokers and the quality varied a great deal, depending on the source region. Our recent experience, now that the quality control is under one manufacturer, is that the quality is unmatched by domestic production. However, we do pay a little more for the higher quality imports. Another problem we experienced was getting dependable lead times from China. We would wait months to recieve material we had already purchased. Now we have started inventorying large quantities of this material in the states and have cut our special order lead times to 6 weeks. The bottom line is that the lesser expensive imported slates can be a very good value, but you really need to know who you are dealing with. My web site is blackdiamondslate.com if you want to view some projects supplied with good Chinese slate. | ||
| scardoza |
I have a client that is requesting a slate tile roof that is brown(copper penny dark brown) in color. Is there such a thing? | ||
| SlateGuy@neslate.com |
Yes, but.... Slate does not come out of the ground brown. Brown is the result of the oxidation of iron bearing layers present in certain deposits of "weathering" or "fading" slate. (for a truly GREAT description of this process see The Slate Roof Bible by Joe Jenkins, pages 27-28). Usually, some percentage of these slates will turn Brown, but not in a predictable manner and there is, to my knowledge, no cost-effective way to guarantee or predict 100% weathering to Brown. The process occurs after the slate is exposed to the elements. A few weeks exposed to the rain and sun will begin the process and it is generally complete after 18 months or so. Certain veins in certain quarries are highly predictable and occasionally one yields slate that will turn 100% Brown - most weathering slate veins are more on the order of 25% to 50% Brown. A more predictable option might be to obtain good salvaged slate and specify only Brown slate. This can be a difficult order to fill for a salvage slate dealer, but you can help by not being too demanding. The broader the range of Brown that you are willing to accept, the easier it will be to fill your order. Also, if you can show some flexibility with size that will help. The more willing you are to see what is available and then make it work with your situation, the better your price will be. What I mean is go shopping, see what's out there. Be willing to mix sizes. Use Random widths and wherever possible use different lengths. Maybe some 12" tall material on dormers or porches and 14's or 16's in the field or some similar combination. When you find what you're looking for, don't diddle around - buy it, before someone else does. If you buy salvage make sure that it has been fully checked. You should not suffer any more rejects with good salvage than you would expect with new slate. Reputable salvage dealers will check EVERY piece - visually and by "sounding." ( a sharp tap with knuckles or hammer will reveal cracks that your eye will never detect). Obviously, all the usual caveats apply. Don't get stuck with junk. Probably somone on this Message Board has what you need. If you have specific questions I would be happy to help. | ||
| larry murray |
I am installing slate on a cathedral roof (no attic)I was told that i do not need an air space for ventilation as you would for asphalt roof... is this true? have you ever used Enkamat for venting? | ||
| Joe |
What's on the roof now? Slate is applied to a 30 lb felt underlayment directly to the wood roof deck. You should avoid plywood. | ||
| Wang Cheng |
We introduce ourselves WESTONE as one among the reliable and largest exporter of Chinese slate as well as finished products. We are in natural slates business for more than a decade. Since we have qualified and well experienced quality control personal, we are able to offer slate products as per requirement and satisfaction of our buyers. WESTONE is located in Shaanxi province, which is the biggest slate exporting base in China. The quarries of WESTONE lie on the chains of Qinba Mountain and Taihang Mountain, there exists the best slate resources in China. The quarries there have been mined for many years with top quality. Many kinds of slate for your choice, which can be met the American ASTM standard and the British BS680 standard. The slate types of WESTONE have roofing, paving, walling, billiard tabletops etc. The color varies in charcoal gray, gray, black, rust, yellow, gray and purple etc. As we believe in personalized service and strict quality control, we offer a variety of color slate in different sizes as per buyer's choice at attractive prices without compromising quality. As we came to know that you are importing slates products from China or other country, we are interested in offering the same. We shall guarantee for quality and in case of genuine loses, we shall arrange for compensation by mutual discussion. Please feel free to fax or Email us for further information without hesitation. Looking for your early reply to develop good and long standing business relationship between us. We want to assure you that your information will receive our most careful and immediate attention. http://www.westones.com | ||
| Frank |
Can someone tell me how many sq/ft or m2 is a square? | ||
| admin |
A "square" is 100 square feet of roof. | ||
| Anonymous |
Do your Chinese suppliers realise that it will take about 225ft to cover 1 square | ||
| IELI |
We are suppliers to the UK market of good quality Chinese slate at competitive prices. We are doing the quality control ourselves (as we are based in Hong Kong) to maintain a high standard. Any interested parties please check our web-site. www.iel.com.hk/slate | ||
| Stephen Orlesky |
We are considering replacing our asphalt shingles with slate. We live in northern Canada (Thunder Bay which is 200 miles north of Duluth Minnesota) and there are no locally qualified slate installers. Although we can have the slate shipped in and have our architect determine if the existing structure can support slate, we are at a bit of a loss in finding an appropriate installer. Any ideas on how to approach this issue? | ||
| admin |
Some slaters do travel. Maybe post an inquiry under the "Looking for Roofing Contractors" subject title. | ||
| SlateGuy |
Stephen, You might check with North Country Slate. They are based in the Toronto area and have extensive contacts amongst Candian Roofing Professionals: http://www.ncslate.com Hope this helps. SlateGuy@neslate.com | ||
| Jerry Neri |
I am looking for some assistance as I explore replacing my cedar shingle roof with slate. Questions as follows: 1. Machine cut shingles now installed on battons, will I need to redo decking with plywood? 2. Is there a rule of thumb for pricing to have this work done. Price per Sq, remove cedar roof, install slate and decking upgrade if required. Will need about 30-40 Sq. Thanks | ||
| slateworks |
Will your roof framing hold the weight of Slate(700 to 1000lbs per 100 sq.feet,some may be more)plus snow load.You could install your slate on your existing battens,you will have to match up nail holes of slate(when ordering you can ask supplier about nail hole measurments for New or Salvaged slate ect.) with your batten lay out or re-punch new holes or add battens as needed.If you use the same size(length)slate as your shakes, nailing pattern should be pretty close.Plywood? Joe suggests the use of real wood instead of plywood and your battens would work,Are they 3/4" or heavier?Back to the plywood issue-we have installed alot of slate over plywood with out any problems,but Joe made a statement that made alot of sense"Will the plywood outlast the life of the slate?"I doubt it".How long will it last? I do not know,so use your battens if you can or install new ones.When you remove your old roof you could install a layer of 30# felt to weather tight roof while you install slate.Cost -rough estimate-Labor and Material-$25,000 to 45,000.00 depends on -New or salvaged slate,Gutters<flashing,Type of roof Hip,Gable ect..Hope this helps. | ||
| admin |
We recently installed a new slate roof on a barn. The original roof was slate installed in the "side-lap" fashion - on battens, and wind damaged. After removing the original slate, we installed 1x4 hemlock roughsawn boards between the battens on the barn roof, leaving the original oak battens in place. Then, we felted over it all with 30# felt, then installed the new VT sea green slate, using stainless steel nails (we wanted harder nails because of the oak battens). It worked fine (photo on page 3 of the Slate Roof Bible, 2nd edition). You may be able to do something like that on the shake roof. Joe | ||
| conor murphy |
I am interested in importing stone products to Ireland. Can you recommend a supplier? Regards, Conor Murphy | ||
| admin |
If you're talking about roofing slate, there is a list of suppliers on this web site at http://www.jenkinsslate.com/newslate.html | ||
| collin hays |
I am considering re-roofing my house (currently heavy wood shake) with slate. A company I am considering is "slatedirect.net", which attaches the slate shingle to a plastic underlayment with a hook system. Their "sales pitch" is that you are only paying "for the slate you see", plus it is a much lighter roof since you are effectively only using half of the slate (about 500lbs per square). Also, they say their slate "is from all over the world - US, Europe, China, etc." Unless I completely replace my roof decking (Currently 7/16" wafer board), this concept is my ONLY slate option. The cost? The materials are about $250 per sq, and the labor another $250. The materials costs tells me that their slate is probably from China, despite what they say about "all over the world". What are your thoughts on this? | ||
| admin |
If you want a roof that will last a century or two, install a traditional slate roof using known, good quality slate. If you want an experimental roof, or a relatively short-lived roof, you have lots of options, incluidng the one you're currently considering. | ||
| jeffrey j kelly |
joe im back in pa have dutch helpers working only two or three days a week have alot of slate on hand kelly 724 831 0761 | ||
| Joe Jenkins |
Good to hear you're still alive, Jeff. I have given several people your name and number, but they couldn't locate you. Have any 12x18 hard black? Joe | ||
| jeffrey j. kelly |
not at the present time we have been using alot of 14 x 24 and reclaiming barns all over would like to see you soon have some blueberry for you to try | ||
| Rich S |
I am looking for an experienced Roofer to repair and maintain my slate roof, chimney flashing also needs repairs or replacing. I'm located in Yonkers, NY Anyone interested please contact me. Thanks Rich S | ||
| admin |
You should click on "main topics" and "looking for roofing contractors" and post your request there. Joe | ||
| Jim R |
I'm looking for used Pennsylvania black slate, 11x16" at a reasonable price. I could use 100-200 pieces if the quality is good. Also, is there a good installer/ repair craftsman in central Pennsylvania? Please email or call 814-571-4419. Jim JLR464@yahoo.com | ||
| Anonymous |
Jim, Check out the contractor directory on this site under Pennsylvania. It should help you find a qualified contractor to assist you for all your slate roofing needs. | ||
| Christian Hadrich |
HI,my name is Christian Hadrich.I`m 31 years old and from Germany. I`m roofer for 5years and now i`m on a Spezial School for roofing. I make there my Master-education in roofing.We learn there everything about slate and the other Materials you can use on a roof.My Master -Test is in April 2006. My Familie,i am married with two kids,and i would like to immigrate to Canada.Do You have a job for a roofer with spezial education or knows one who looks for? Please send a Mail to ch.hadrich@teleos-web.de |
