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carol david
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

am i dealing with a neanderthal or a skilled, knowedgeable slate roofer?... My slate roof is about 100 years old...there are a few slates which have slipped because of nail failure...unfortunately the wood and some of the metal of my box gutters is seriously deteriorated...the roofer with whom i am in serious negotiations tells me that i have to remove all the slate covering the "metal' from the box gutters before I can proceed to replace the metal innards and box gutters...can anyone give me some guidance?
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Tim Dittmar
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Neanderthal or skilled, knowledgeable slater? The truth may likely be somewhere in-between(philosophical moment). If you have built-in, soffit, integral, non-modern(similar terms) gutters- there's usually a 8-10 inch skirt up under the shingles(slates) to help assure that water won't enter the house in that direction from icemelt, high winds, etc. Doubtless, some slates and the cant strip(plaster lath size) are nailed into the sheetmetal- the old metal could be cut away and left up there undisturbed but the new metal will need to go in there at some point. Some configurations of "box" gutters can be very elaborate and expensive and need complete clearance to avoid damaging them during installation- more input from you on metal type and such could prompt further options but he's probably correct. I'm in NC directory if you'd like to pursue alot of detail?...
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admin
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes, you have to remove the slate that is covering the old metal in order to completely expose it and thereby remove it before installing the new metal.
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Walter Musson
Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Carol David
Yes,the slates have to be removed,but should be done carefully so as to salvage them for re-use once the metal work is completed.Not only as a cost factor,but the original slates match for color better than new or recycled from another house.Tim mentioned the cant strip for the lowest course,be sure thats installed under the metal so it doesn't rot or cause a leak from the nails if it were on top of the metal.Make sure the metalwork has soldered seams not just siliconed.
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carol david
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dear tom, admin and walter..sorry for the tardy response...i am most appreciative of your input..we've been deluged with rain but i expect work will commence soon...and feel much more confident in my choice of roofing person after your responses..i'll keep you posted of the progress.

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